ACTUALLY ANONYMOUS (SINCE YOUR AFRAID TO USE YOUR NAME) WE WERE DRAG RACING IT AT DRAGWAY 42 IN WEST SALEM OHIO EVERY WEEK END FOR ABOUT A YEAR BEFORE IT BLEW UP. BACK THEN NOBODY CARED ABOUT A 175.00 CAR.THATS WHAT I PAID FOR IT. IT WOULD STILL RUN 14.70 IN THE QUARTER WITH NO TRACTION!

Probably one too many times of burying that 140 speedo, huh? What possesses a person to put a car through that when it has 130,000 hard miles on it?

I BOUGHT ONE OF THESE CARS IN 1974 OFF A SMALL TOWN COP THAT GOT IT FROM THE STATE AUCTION IT HAD 130,000 MILES ON IT.IT WOULD STILL BURY THAT 140 MPH SPEEDOMETER.I SPUN A ROD BEARING ON THE NUMBER ONE CYLINDER AND JUNKED THE WHOLE CAR AT SQUEAKIES JUNK YARD ON RT 83 NORTH OF LODI OHIO HE GAVE ME 25.00 DOLLARS FOR IT,IF WE WOULD HAVE ONLY KNOWN.IT WASNT RUSTY OR ANYTHING!

This was a crash in 1988 I think, without revealing too much, I believe this was the fatality crash off of Culebra by the West sub-station of an officer-in-trouble call. There were no other cars, just a one car vs. utility pole. Those Dodges and Gran Fury's were light at the rear end and got really "froggy" at times, so did the LTD's come to think of it.

This car is a 1998 and lasted until it was retired in August of 2001. Over it's course here it was smashed all to hell from a crash on IH35....drunk driver.. It was fixed but was never the same, the suspension was never right, it looked like a low rider and the light bars leaked so by the time it was retired out, the light bar was light red and bluish green. Ol' P-29, we all liked it cause with this one, most of the cars came with the center caps which we all thought looked cooler than the full wheel covers. It was a good car with the old graphics that were changed in December 2002...AJ, Schertz PD

So true. I only wish I had photographed one of the few used by the town where I grew up. With Whelen Super Strobes!!

That was a shame. Nice 9C1 Caprice examples are getting harder to come by since Chevy made the stupid decision to discontinue the platform after 1996. Thankfully, I managed to get myself a very sweet '89 which will stay with me forever. Now all I need is a nice '96 LT1 and I'll be set.

Gran fury...(?) maybe '76 or '77? Anybody know?

don and greg, yeah, you all are right, the lp's and the mx's did have amber rotator filters in addition to the red and blue. however, there didn't really seem to be any real method to their madness. some of the trucks and cars out there still equipped with the mx7000's might have the amber rotators to the inside, or sometimes they'll only have an amber rotator on one side of the bar. the jetsonic i bought off of the dps had 2 amber filters on the "red" side of the bar, and one on the "blue" side of the bar. and i think you're also right as to some of the forward facing filters being amber as well.

using amber isn't that bad of an idea, anyway. i think someone posted a link to a study on the forum stating that the amber was more likely to warn people approaching instead of the red/blue.

that arizona twin sonic with the amber/red and two speakers in the middle looks kinda strange, though (i know it's not pictured here).

John- Don't know when you left NHP, but am trying to determine if they in fact used the 73 Polara's. I have one and would like to replicate, but need to know if they were used opposed to another type of vehicle, thanks.

I KNOW THE T.H.P.(DPS) USED THERE CLEAR LIGHT BARS WITH AMBERS BUT THEY WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RED ON THE LEFT AND BLUE ON THE RIGHT BUT NEVER ENTIRELY AMBER..THE STATE (TEXAS) LEAVES OUT THE AMBER WITH BLUE ONLY ISSUED OUT TO TEX DOT...AND ALL AMBER TO SECURITY AGENCIES..

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Yes, etg, all three cars are AZ DPS. That was pretty much the standard in Arizona back then on Visi-bars. Lots of depts. used one amber lens, one red lens.

The trooper in the Mercury probably decided he liked the red on the driver's side and switched it himself. Easy to do and probably had a Sgt. who didn't care if he changed it.

Taco, I checked some of my TX DPS pictures and anonymous is right. They did have revolving amber lights along with the red and blue on their MX7000 bars:

http://public.fotki.com/copcardotcom/photographs_of_greg/fgs/mountain_and_southw/aa-45.html

I remember seeing amber filters to the front of their JetSonics too, but I don't have any pictures of those on my page. I'll have to check my photo albums at home.

DPS lightbars included amber rotators or primary warning flashers from the early 90's until 2001 or 2002. They started with LP6000's (I think) and JetSonics, then upgraded to MX7000's. The MX7000 combination was red and blue outboard rotators, then red and blue rear flashers, then amber inboard rotators, and finally the siren grille in the middle. That was the main level. Secondary lighting on the lower level was the amber traffic director to the rear and two or four takedowns to the front. In 2001 or 2002, DPS changed to all-light MX7000's and dropped the amber rotators, going with red and blue both inboard and outboard, a white rotator in the middle, and the siren behind the vehicle's grille. In 2003 or 2004, the first Whelen strobe/LED combo bars went out for testing, followed within a year or so by the now standard all-LED.

In other news, I need to get out more.

he's talking about amber being used as a primary light, not as an amber flasher. the texas dps used mx7000's with amber arrowstick assemblies in the rear facing lower deck. their new edge led lightbars also have an amber signal warning system to the rear. this would equate to modern copcars if, for example, a police car had an entire side of its lightbar red, and the other side amber. if i'm not mistaken, that's the point joetex is trying to make.

however, i do notice that middle vehicle has the rotators reversed. in the two flanking vehicles, the drivers side has the amber light, and on the middle car, the amber light is over the passenger side. i wonder if all three cars are azdps.

what about the people that are too retarded to know the difference between "cap lock" and the key on their computer named "caps lock"?

That shows what you know, TEX. The Texas Highway Patrol used amber lights on their lightbars up until about 4 or 5 years ago.

yes, they still had some '68 Dodge Polaras that were like CHP slick tops, same identical light set up, when this pic was taken. Those were the last of the slick tops then as I recall.

blah blah blah blah. Do me a favor. Look down to the left side of your keyboard. See the button that says "cap lock"?
Press it once and then never touch it again.

Cap lock is for people too retarded to know how to cap properly so they figure if they just make everything a cap, everybody will think they are smart.

AH THE E.O.D. UNIT THIS ONE YOU WOULD REARLY SEE EVEN ON THE STREETS...OR THE RADIO...WHO EVER TOOK THIS AND THE OTHER PICTURE OF THE CROWN VIC WOULD YOU BE SO KIND ON SENDING ME A COPY OF THIS 1 AND THE C.V.P.I ON THE NEXT PAGE I NEVER COULD GET A PICTURE OF THOSE UNITS I JUST TOOK PICS OF THE 96'MODEL YR FOR THE CROWN VIC...OR I COULD TRADE YOU PICTURS ON THE SAME CITY BUT WITH THE NEWER PO.GRAPHICS AND LED LIGHT BARS THNX E-MAIL IS JOEMCLLN@YAHOO.COM THNX